Pipex Internet - The worst company I have come across
This is a little off topic but I am so annoyed that I simply have to voice my feelings.
Pipex are a UK ISP (internet service provider) I have been with them many years as I felt that their service was very good. Unfortunately of recent years this is not the case as you will hear.
I have now been without my Pipex internet for 2 weeks and 10 hours. I rely heavily on the internet for many of my websites. I really cannot be without it for more than a few hours without it affecting my day to day activities.
Just to give a little on my Pipex experience before I begin, I first started to doubt Pipex and their customer care/admin abilities when I first moved to them. They lost my order and subsequently it took the 10 days or so for them to reactivate the account once my previous ISP had switched off my broadband - frustrating but these things happen.
The service was good - I think I had only a day in total with the internet being down in the four years or so I used them. I recommended others to use them above the many other ISP’s that were emerging.
2 years ago I moved properties. Being cautious I had a 2 week period of being in my new property without having to leave the old. I explained to Pipex the situation and I looked for a nice clean change with then Pipex connection from the old to the new property. 2 weeks was plenty of time for this to be actioned. After hanging on, on hold, on an 0871 number (they earn money from this) for 45 minutes it looked like I had the move all sorted. Now all I had to do was wait for the connection to go live.
Guess what…………? It did not go live. once again Pipex had messed up. After a 45 minute wait on hold listening to a lovely lady tell me every 2 seconds how important the call was (not important enough to get enough staff!) They blamed the fact that the new phone line was not set up correctly when they tried to set it up their end so they just cancelled the order. The guy seemed quite surprised at my question “did no one think to possibly phone on all the numbers provided or email to check if the order was mean to be cancelled? ” So another 10 day wait here.
Meanwhile another friend had moved house. They experienced exactly the same issue apart from Pipex managed to lose his order twice. Great stuff so far - at least the connection seemed reliable.
On Wednesday 2 weeks ago my internet stopped working. I confirmed in my own mind that my equipment was not to blame. I received a call from a friend who was in the same situation. It had to be a fault with Pipex as we were both with them. I then phoned Pipex.
25 minutes later my call was answered. I cannot fault the guy on the phone. He went through all the checks he had to make. He said there were no know faults although I knew full well that my friend had previously phoned. He asked me to do some checks that involved unplugging the line and disconnecting the call. I told him I would happily face the charge if BT found a fault my end as I was certain that it was them.
He accepted this and said that he would log a call with BT. This would take between 1 and 6 days. I asked if there was anything that he could do to speed it up but he said not. He took my numbers and said that as soon as they had an update they would call to let me know.
Days passed and still nothing. I phoned Pipex a couple of times. After laboriously working through the automated message, I just got a message to say they were experiencing high volumes of calls and to phone back.
After 5 days with no word, Furious, I called Pipex. I could not get through to the technical department as they were too busy to even allow me to hold on the 45 minutes. I opted to speak to customer service.
They guy at customer service said there was nothing he could do - it was a technical support issue. I explained I firstly could not get through to them, but also I wanted to speak to a manager regarding compensation and cancelling my contract. “There is no manager available” he said. I explained I was happy for a manager to call me back the following day. “not possible” he said, “this is the wrong department. ” . Getting quite annoyed now I explained that I was speaking to the right department as I was looking for compensation and to cancel my contract as well as getting some answers. If this wasn’t customer service, I didn’t know what what. He explained that he was customer care and I needed customer service. Of course, he could not get anyone to call from customer service as it was a separate department. I asked for my migration code - no another department. What a total joke.
Meanwhile I had written to Pipex demanding answers as well as emails. No response whatsoever from these.
Day 10 and still no word from Pipex. I called again. Another 40 minutes holding at my expense. It was the same person I had originally spoke with. He sad there was nothing he could do, no one he could get to call me back. He said he would put a note on the system saying I was furious about not being updated and that a call back was necessary. I asked why I had not been updated after the 1 - 6 days he had previously promised. He said he did not know and apologised. I said that I would doubt anyone would call back from teh note he had put on the system and it was just a way to get me off the phone. He said he could not categorically promise that I would receive a call but he did say that people did get calls back from the company.
Surprisingly I did not hear back from Pipex and this brings me to yesterday.
I got a message in the morning from my friend saying we were back online. At last I thought. Got home and checked the connection. Nothing.
Another call to Pipex. At first I could not get through. They were surprising experiencing high call volumes again. I persisted. Eventually I was allowed to join the holding queue.
25 minutes later someone answered. They said that there had been a note put on the system that BT were going to visit the exchange to carry out repairs in 2 days time. he said that my friend must be on a different line that had been fixed - how many lines could possibly have gone down? I queried why I had not been contacted when there was an update to be given. he could not provide an answer. I asked for a call back from a manager but surprisingly (since my last promise of a call) they had turned into an inbound call centre only.
Not believing a word of it I said “I am certain your managers have the ability to make outbound calls”. “Yes” he said. “Well get one to call me back then”. “Ok no problem” he said “although, you will still need to speak to technical”. “You get technical to call me, I’m sure you are able to communicate between departments”. “yes” he said.
I got the distinct impression that once again I was being fobbed off. As yest I have received no calls and I have put into place a new service provider. I will never use Pipex again. It looks like I will have been without internet access for over 2.5 weeks before they finally put me back on.
Rumors have it, on the internet, that Pipex are sneakily moving their customers onto Tiscali lines which is probably where the problem generated from. Of course, they will not admit anything to anyone.
Check out on the internet. I have now read loads of reports that Pipex have been deteriorating for some time - Poor customer care as well as poor internet service, unreliable connections, slow speeds are all noted all across the board.
In the mean time I have had to make do with expensive and painfully slow dial up connection where every page takes a minute to load. I have had to site on hold for hours to finally not even get an answer or any help.
So bottom line, Do not use Pipex, do not touch them with a barge pole, If you want reliable internet go elsewhere, if you want decent customer care run away as fast as you can as Pipex will provide quite the opposite.
If you have had a similar experience then please post a comment.
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I am - unfortunately - going through the wringer myself with Pipex at the moment. I won’t bore you with the full details here but if you pop on over to my site http://www.deanmarshall.co.uk/content/view/93/103/ you’ll see my story.
Basically I am convinced they use deliberate tactics to stonewall customers - and fraudulent practises to create contracts and get through cancellation periods so as to trap people. They think nothing of telling you what you want/need to hear on the phone but are incapable of following up with email or written confirmations. I’ve been told variously that management aren’t in, will call back within 24 hours and yesterday was told that I could request a manager call me back but it would take a week.
I don’t use words like criminal and fraudulent lightly - but I’ve been using them a lot of late.
Dean
February 7th, 2008 at 3:13 pmI have had similar problem with Pipex they will not let you cancel.
I was a loyal customer for about 6 years, the last 2 years were a nightmare unable to log on and frequent disconnections, despite numerous phone call and emails nothing was done I decided enough was enough.
Pipex ignored my letters of cancellation and continued to debit my credit card, two months went by more money was taken so I phoned the credit card up and instructed them to stop Pipex taking money that they where not entitled to take.
The credit card company said they could not stop the payments I would have to wait for Pipex to stop requesting payments !!!!!.
I wrote to the Credit card company by registered post informing them of the date of cancellation and unless they stop payments I would take my business to another bank and take them to court for the over payments.
Two days later I had a phone call from the bank informing me that they were returning the over payments, if Pipex continued to take payments they would retrieve the money.
A week or so later Pipex phoned and wanted to know why I had stopped payment, I explained the saga to the lady from accounts she apologised but denied any cancellation being received by them despite sending it recorded, she said she would sort the problem out and refund any over payment.
Next day Pipex phone telling me they had cancelled the service and where refunding any over payment, they refunded two payments but continued to take payments from my credit card, these were clawed back by the cc company.
Finally they stopped taking the money, 5 months later they sent me a notice before proceedings from some crapy collection company for £16.40 + £80.11 cost if I did not pay immediately, I paid the £16.40.
BUT BEWARE PIPEX THIS IS NOT THE END
Its my turn now to start proceedings.
Very pissed off ex customer
February 18th, 2008 at 5:18 pmThey are very vage. I have been with them for two years and they have roped me into another 12 month contract with them. If i experience another problem, I will cancel my direct debet and claim that i had been misled by their clever sales people. I know that they say it is a contract, but dose this not require two parties to sign some kind of document. It is all very confusing and unethical.
February 21st, 2008 at 3:28 pmI think Pipex and Fraudulent Criminals. I moved out 2 years ago my contract was already finished. After i moved out they still debited my account for 4-5 months which no one was using their services and due to my financial difficulties, bank cancelled my credit card so pipex direct debit cancelled too. But i have got pone call from my previous address and they said me they need MAC code from Pipex in order to connect to Internet (of course with different ISP) when i phone Pipex they told me there is 300 something pound outstanding balance, after long waiting queue i have got nothing. How can they request a money for which they don’t supply service, my contract is already finished before moving and I am not leaving there any more no one using their service since i moved out, also they charged me for extra 4-5 months and they blocking someone else’s phone in order to have more illegal money. No one can ask money for not supplying service. Illegal at all.
March 3rd, 2008 at 12:49 pmThanks for your blog - will take note and stay clear.
Although the sight of The Hoff promoting them did put me off already!!
March 4th, 2008 at 7:50 pmdo not touch them with a barge pole. discusting customer service, could’nt give a monkey, they put you on hold then hang up, not interested. they have broken their contract agreement by taking a years fee from my bank account for terminating, we signed up on a 30 day trial (what a joke that was). then they even denied having a 30 day trial. luckily i found it on the internet and read it back to them, then the story changed. what a complete joke. already seeking consumer advice from trading standards as an imaginery manager is supposed to be authorising my refund! ive waitied 2 weeks now, lets face it, its not going to happen! if they dont respond to my letter i will just proceed and take them to court.
May 21st, 2008 at 4:55 pmGlad to see that the quality of service is as poor there as in France
Really sorry but my feeling is that nowadays we pay for what we get…
June 19th, 2008 at 12:44 pmOliviers last blog post..Lamentable
We have been with Pipex for about 10 years and they used to be good - I even had an account manager with a direct telephone line. Now, however communication with them has become almost impossible and, after much hassle, and some help from Ofcom, we closed all our accounts and migrated everything to a very helpful Rochdale based ISP.
However Pipex are still hassling us for payment of these accounts and I fear we will be seeking Ofcom’s help again.
Don’t even think of signing up with Pipex.
July 16th, 2008 at 12:18 pm